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Well with wins in the first two legs of the Triple Crown do you think Big Brown is for real. Man did he look good today. At the top of the stretch he look like the only horse running forward. All the rest looked like they were in reverse. What a great horse. Lets hope he wins the Belmont.:beerbang:
SF Kid
05-17-2008, 07:10 PM
Yeah he looked great today. I think he's for real plus this years 3 year old field is weak. He's basically got no competition. I think he'll win the Triple Crown pretty easily. He barely broke a sweat today. Very dominating.
They are bringing in a super colt from Japan for the Belmont. They are already calling it the Great match race. We will see. It maybe just hype or we could be in for a really great race. I can't wait.:)
McCovey
05-19-2008, 12:28 AM
I would think that any horse that wins the first two legs of the Triple Crown is the "real deal". I'm sure Big Brown's owners will be charging a pretty penny once they put him on the stud farm. :p
SF Kid
06-06-2008, 06:50 PM
Tomorrow is the day. I think Big Brown is gonna do it. He breaking from the 1 hole...should be an advantage for him.
Tomorrow is the day. I think Big Brown is gonna do it. He breaking from the 1 hole...should be an advantage for him.
That is the last place they wanted him to break from. But I don't see that it will hinder him in the least. We will see. GO BIG BROWN!!
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SF Kid
06-07-2008, 08:20 AM
The horse from Japan is scratched.
Breaking on the rail is a huge advantage for this horse (mainly because of his speed and power). No way he gets pinched or have to make up ground coming into the stretch. He''ll romp today. There really isn't any competition at all. First time in 30 years. Pretty cool.
SF Kid
06-07-2008, 08:50 AM
BTW...
Big Brown will take his shot at Triple Crown history from the inside, drawing the No. 1 post for Saturday's race. The post could be a lucky one for an undefeated colt that really doesn't need any extra edge: It's produced the most Belmont winners (23) since 1905.
...and
Big Brown won the Kentucky Derby from the outside and he dominated the Preakness starting in the middle of the pack. Now, the colt has a shot at winning from the rail. Jockey Kent Desormeaux, whose flawless handling of the horse has Big Brown in position for the first Triple Crown in 30 years, said the inside was a better spot.
"Absolutely, because it's an easier trip," he said. "I would be able to just guide and glide. Now, I'm going to have to jockey for position. He's so fast away from the gate, though, the race might be over in 40 yards."
His trainer wanted him on the outside. Both the trainer and owner said they were unhappy with him on the rail. I understand your theory, but that is not how they see it. As I said I think it will make little difference anyway.
"GO BIG BROWN"
SF Kid
06-07-2008, 08:58 AM
Dummy...READ...this is the jockey talking.
"Absolutely, because it's an easier trip," he said. "I would be able to just guide and glide. Now, I'm going to have to jockey for position. He's so fast away from the gate, though, the race might be over in 40 yards."
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Dummy...READ...this is the jockey talking.
Did I anywhere say the Bear thinks it is a problem? NO! I said this is what the Trainer and the Owner said. What the Jockey going to say? I hate the slot! He is just happy to have a ride, and a chance at all that money.:nono:
SF Kid
06-07-2008, 09:26 AM
It's a great place for THIS horse against this horrible field. He'll win so easily and has little chance of having to save ground in the mile and a half race.
One thing about horse racing is the trainers and jockeys don't have to keep their mouths shut. The other horses in the field can't read. In fact the trainer was running his mouth earlier in the week about how easily his horse was going to win . What's he suppose to say? He could have said nothing. ;) Same with the jockey but the jockey doesn't feel it'll be any problem whatsoever because his horse is the best by a lot. In fact the experts say this group of 3 year olds is probably the worst field in 40 years -- Big Brown being the only exception. If he doesn't win today it'll be the biggest upset since the Miracle on Ice.
If he doesn't win today it'll be the biggest upset since the Miracle on Ice.
Now you don't really believe that do you?It's happen 18 times that a horse has come in with only the Belmont to win for the triple crown, and lost. I dare say some of those horses were great, and the field not so good only to have come up short in the big one. No horse racing has too many variables to say that it a sure thing like the Russians were. :nono:
SF Kid
06-07-2008, 12:08 PM
This Belmont field is so weak yes I do believe that.
SF Kid
06-07-2008, 05:13 PM
So much for Big Brown being a "great horse" although he got a horrible ride from that jockey. I just don't think he was wanting to run today for some reason.
Miracle on Turf.
SF Kid
06-07-2008, 05:33 PM
"I had no horse," said Big Brown's jockey, Kent Desormeaux.You had no brain said The Kid. ;)
I just do not trust the trainer.
SF Kid
06-07-2008, 07:14 PM
I just do not trust the trainer.Yes he sounded like a complete fool whe nthey interviewed him after the race. He "didn't know" anything. :rolleyes:
Just like when his wife was killed. Just like when he was a junkie. Just like.
A lot of money was made when this horse did not win. A lot of money! :eek::nono:
SF Kid
06-08-2008, 06:10 AM
A lot of money was made when this horse did not win. A lot of money! :eek::nono:Do you mean from people who made bets? If so that isn't true. The par mutual pool is paid no matter what it's just split up differently. If Big Brown had won the same amount of money would have been paid out to the betters.
I mean if you bet on the winner with Big Brown out of the money you were in for a big pay day.:eek:
SF Kid
06-08-2008, 11:17 AM
I mean if you bet on the winner with Big Brown out of the money you were in for a big pay day.:eek:No kidding. That horse paid $79... :eek:
Lot of unhappy folks who put sdome serious cash on Big Bust at 1-4. Can't remember the last time I saw any horse go off at 1-4. Secretariat went off at 1-5 but he won by 31 lengths.
After the Belmont "Big Red" went next to the Arlington International where his odds were drummed down to microscopic proportions, 1-to-20. He won that race by 9 lengths.
Well Big Brown, you're no "Secretariat". ;)
No he is not and I am not sure you will ever see him on a track again!:(
SF Kid
06-08-2008, 12:12 PM
No he is not and I am not sure you will ever see him on a track again!:(Not so sure about that. Now that he's lost (and isn't a Triple Crown winner) the gigantic money for stud fees has been reduced so they might want to prove he just had an off day and run him in a few more races. Had to tell. Certainly that trainer has no clue. What a dick.
On the other hand he has been sold to a stud farm, and they may want to deliver a whole horse, and not a bag of ashes.:eek:
McCovey
06-08-2008, 11:04 PM
What the heck happen to Big Brown/ It's like he was drugged or something. He was never in the race. Doesn't that seem strange to you guys? :shrug:
SF Kid
06-09-2008, 08:12 AM
I think the answer to "what happened" is simple -- the horse just didn't "fire" that day. It happens in horse racing all the time. You just don't expect it to happen to a supposed super star like Big Brown. Also I read that they checked him out yesterday and there is nothing wrong with the horse.
Incidentally they're now calling him Big Bust. :rotf:
McCovey
06-09-2008, 01:49 PM
I've also heard on the radio today that the Big Brown hadn't completely healed form his cracked hoof and the jockey pulled back during the race.
SF Kid
06-09-2008, 03:00 PM
I think the jockey pulled him up to protect the investment as soon as he knew he was beaten which was pretty much at the top of the stretch.
I've also heard on the radio today that the Big Brown hadn't completely healed form his cracked hoof and the jockey pulled back during the race.
The hoof should not have been a problem but it is possible.:(
I think the jockey pulled him up to protect the investment as soon as he knew he was beaten which was pretty much at the top of the stretch.
You are correct for a change. He had no chance to finish in the money so the jockey did pull him up.:)
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