Conor Gillaspie

[TkleMstr52]

I know we are all excited about seeing Posey, Bumgarner and Alderson join Sandoval in the bigs for years to come!!:beerbang: How do you all feel about Gillaspie? Is he in this group?

[Bear]

I know we are all excited about seeing Posey, Bumgarner and Alderson join Sandoval in the bigs for years to come!!:beerbang: How do you all feel about Gillaspie? Is he in this group?

Yes, but not quit as much. If Sandoval plays third base and Burrissplays second he will be blocked. At this point to use Sebean's term he is in a fall back position.;)

[TkleMstr52]

Geez that sucks for this young guy, he was the first 08 draftee to get to the bigs and that may be done for quite some time!!

[Bear]

Geez that sucks for this young guy, he was the first 08 draftee to get to the bigs and that may be done for quite some time!!

However if he comes along as they hope he is another guy they can use in a trade.:)

[McCovey]

I am not high on Gillaspe. He has no power. And the scouts say he profiles out to be similar to Bill Mueller. Bill Mueller? :o

[TkleMstr52]

I am not high on Gillaspe. He has no power. And the scouts say he profiles out to be similar to Bill Mueller. Bill Mueller? :o

Hey Mueller was a great Giant and was a pivotal role player in the Bosox first run to the title!! Bosox, Doh :banghead:

[Bear]

I am not high on Gillaspe. He has no power. And the scouts say he profiles out to be similar to Bill Mueller. Bill Mueller? :o

Man do we see this guy with different eyes. I was a big Bill M. fan and thought he was second only to Matt Williams in SF Giant History at third base. Power is not everything! ;)

[TkleMstr52]

In the Giants park, who is a power hitter? They need guys who can find the gap and scoot! They do need that power hitter but everyone seems to think power fizzles out in San Fran. They need a Dunn type power hitter, he could hit the glove oppo field style!! Maybe not but someone with his power would be sweet!

[McCovey]

Man do we see this guy with different eyes. I was a big Bill M. fan and thought he was second only to Matt Williams in SF Giant History at third base. Power is not everything! ;)
I liked Bill Mueller. He was a solid player with the Giants but he wasn't a star by any means. I wasn't knocking Mueller, though. I was just commenting that Gillaspsie is not really a great prospect in terms of star potential. For me to be excited about Gillaspie shouldn't he be compared to Scott Rolen? David Wright? Power is not everything but haven't we been discussing the Giants complete lack of power for the past week or so?

Bill Mueller the #2 Giants third baseman all-time? Jimmy Ray Hart and Darrell Evans say :wavey:.

:D

[TkleMstr52]

Are we looking for a 27 homer guy? That is where Rowand was before he joined the Giants. He had 13 last year. I dont care how much a guy strikes out, the Giants if they are gonna get a power hitter, it needs to be 100% raw power!!

[McCovey]

Are we looking for a 27 homer guy? That is where Rowand was before he joined the Giants. He had 13 last year. I dont care how much a guy strikes out, the Giants if they are gonna get a power hitter, it needs to be 100% raw power!!
Rowand went from the easiest ball park to homer to one of the toughest. His decrease in HR was expected. I do care how much a player strikes out. And, no, I do not want Adam Dunn on the Giants.

[Bear]

I liked Bill Mueller. He was a solid player with the Giants but he wasn't a star by any means. I wasn't knocking Mueller, though. I was just commenting that Gillaspsie is not really a great prospect in terms of star potential. For me to be excited about Gillaspie shouldn't he be compared to Scott Rolen? David Wright? Power is not everything but haven't we been discussing the Giants complete lack of power for the past week or so?

Bill Mueller the #2 Giants third baseman all-time? Jimmy Ray Hart and Darrell Evans say :wavey:.

:D

Hart was good but stupid. This at times got in his way.:pound:

Evans mostly player First base and he was not a great player and I would rather have Mueller.;)

[Bear]

Rowand went from the easiest ball park to homer to one of the toughest. His decrease in HR was expected. I do care how much a player strikes out. And, no, I do not want Adam Dunn on the Giants.

At the right price and if he played only first base I would take Dunn.:cool:

[TkleMstr52]

Rowand went from the easiest ball park to homer to one of the toughest. His decrease in HR was expected. I do care how much a player strikes out. And, no, I do not want Adam Dunn on the Giants.

I believe I said Adam Dunn type power. NO? So, should we find a way to get rid of Lewis? He struck out 124 times in 468 at bats. Also a no, low average, obp and strikes out a lot is a guy I do not want but if he has a good average or is consistantly on base I will take him. 40 and 100 last year with an obp of .373, That is pretty good.

[McCovey]

Hart was good but stupid. This at times got in his way.:pound:

Ok, and? Hart was a much better hitter than Mueller.

Evans mostly player First base and he was not a great player and I would rather have Mueller.;)
No true. Here are Evens defensive breakdown as a Giant.

1976
1B-83 games
3B-5

1977
LF-81
1B-41
3B-35

1978
3B-155

1979
3B-159

1980
3B-140
1B-14
SS-9

1981
3B-87
1B-12

1982
3B-84
1B-49
SS-13

1983
1B-113
3B-32
SS-9

So we get:

3B-697
1B-312
LF-81
SS-22

Looks like Evens was the Giants regular third baseman for five seasons plus he played third base more than twice as many games as first base.

[Bear]

Well than Evans must have been the pits if he played that much there and the memory fades that much. He was a guy with warning track power who still tried to hit it out every time even if a single or walk would do. It was all about Evans. :nono:

[kar120c]

Hey Mueller was a great Giant and was a pivotal role player in the Bosox first run to the title!! Bosox, Doh :banghead:

Man do we see this guy with different eyes. I was a big Bill M. fan and thought he was second only to Matt Williams in SF Giant History at third base. Power is not everything! ;)

I remember Bill Mueller. He had a great swing. And he was a very good defender at 3B. His problem was injuries. He kept getting hurt. Sometimes to the bizzare - he once broke his kneecap. The Giants had to make a roster decision with him, and they decided to let him go. He went to Dusty Baker's Cubs, where... he got hurt. The Cubs eventually let him go, and he drifted to Boston... where he a) finally got healthy, b) won the batting title and c) won a WS ring. Then he got hurt again. He is now out of baseball (he finished up with LAD in 06).

Gillaspie was up for a sip of coffee in '08. I liked what I saw. He has a swing that reminds me of Meuller - short, quick, informed (he is very good at going the other way). I was also struck by the confidence with which he plays - he did not hit 11 82 .419 as a junior (his last year) at perennial power house Wichita State by accident.

He is also a talented defender. I could see him playing 3B for the Giants some day. I could also see him hitting .300. I know he does not project for power, but when was the last time the Giants had a good fielding .300 hitter at 3B?

I know that he seems blocked right now, but things can change. Promising players don't pan out (Todd Linden, Dan Ortmeier, Jason Ellison). Others get hurt - Marcus Sanders, Merkin Valdez (it was just announced that he is going under the knife - elbow - again).

"The best laid plans of mice and men..."

[McCovey]

I remember Bill Mueller. He had a great swing. And he was a very good defender at 3B. His problem was injuries. He kept getting hurt. Sometimes to the bizzare - he once broke his kneecap. The Giants had to make a roster decision with him, and they decided to let him go. He went to Dusty Baker's Cubs, where... he got hurt. The Cubs eventually let him go, and he drifted to Boston... where he a) finally got healthy, b) won the batting title and c) won a WS ring. Then he got hurt again. He is now out of baseball (he finished up with LAD in 06).

Gillaspie was up for a sip of coffee in '08. I liked what I saw. He has a swing that reminds me of Meuller - short, quick, informed (he is very good at going the other way). He is also a talented defender. I could see him playing 3B for the Giants some day. I could also see him hitting .300. I know he does not project for power, but when was the last time the Giants had a good fielding .300 hitter at 3B?

I know that he seems blocked right now, but things can change. Promising players don't pan out (Todd Linden, Dan Ortmeier, Jason Ellison). Others get hurt - Marcus Sanders, Merkin Valdez (it wasa just announced that he is going under the knife - elbow - again).

"The best laid plans of mice and men..."
There is talk of moving Gillaspie to second base. That would be a smart move IMO. His lack of power wouldn't be an issue as a second baseman.

[Bear]

....but when was the last time the Giants had a good fielding .300 hitter at 3B?

Matt Williams!:)

[McCovey]

Matt Williams!:)
As a Giant Matty hit .264 over 10 seasons. :D

[Bear]

As a Giant Matty hit .264 over 10 seasons. :D

With how many RBI & HR's? Are you saying he was not a great third baseman?:rolleyes:

[McCovey]

With how many RBI & HR's? Are you saying he was not a great third baseman?:rolleyes:
No, I saying Matty wasn't a .300 hitting third baseman as you asserted. :p

[TkleMstr52]

Yea but he carried himself as a .300 hitter would! Doesnt that count for anything?:p

[McCovey]

Yea but he carried himself as a .300 hitter would! Doesnt that count for anything?:p
Matty was just cool. I remember when debuted with the Giants he was already bald! :pound: Matty was actually on the 1987 Giants postseason roster but he didn't see any action.

[TkleMstr52]

I look forward to the next batch of GREAT Giants!!:dance:

[SF Kid]

Gillaspie? Who is this ginny? :confused:

[Bear]

Gillaspie? Who is this ginny? :confused:




:smack: :smack: :smack: :smack:

[SF Kid]

Ah oh...the politically correct Bear is "in da house"... :rotf:

I'm Italian so I can say what I want about the wops.

[Bear]

Mrs. Bear is Italian so I am offended for both of you! And what made you think I did not know you were Italian? With you last name I did not think you were Inuit!:D

[McCovey]

Mrs. Bear is Italian so I am offended for both of you! And what made you think I did not know you were Italian? With you last name I did not think you were Inuit! :D
Clemenza? Tessio? Tattaglia? Barzini? Cicci? Sollozzo? Luca Brasi? What?

[Bear]

Clemenza? Tessio? Tattaglia? Barzini? Cicci? Sollozzo? Luca Brasi? What?

Thats it! Kid Brasi!:pound:

[SF Kid]

The Bear is a major pain in the ass today! :pound:

[SF Kid]

For your information Bear, I have a call in to a friend of mine (Vito) in New York. We might have to bust you up a little until you show a little respect. :eek:

[McCovey]

For your information Bear, I have a call in to a friend of mine (Vito) in New York. We might have to bust you up a little until you show a little respect. :eek:
Are you going to send the Bear a "Sicilian message"? :o

[SF Kid]

Either that or a Columbian necktie -- haven't decided which yet!

[TkleMstr52]

With a name like Bear, he sounds like a big boy, make sure Vito brings Vinnie and a big bat!!:boxing:

[Bear]

For your information Bear, I have a call in to a friend of mine (Vito) in New York. We might have to bust you up a little until you show a little respect. :eek:

Bring him on. I have knee-capped a few in my day!:cool:

[McCovey]

So back to Conor Gillaspie. He was the first player from the '08 draft to reach he majors. I found that odd because he really didn't do anything special in his very short time in the minors yo warrant a call up. Yet, the Giants brought him up to the majors and he go into 8 games and had seven plate appearances. Had one hit and two walks.

Here are his minor league stats for '08.

http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=37347

I'd like to see what he can do over a full season and if the Giants will indeed move him to second base.

[kar120c]

Gillaspie? Who is this ginny? :confused:

Ah oh...the politically correct Bear is "in da house"... :rotf:

I'm Italian so I can say what I want about the wops.

Are you going to send the Bear a "Sicilian message"? :o

You guys are killing me - no pun intended...

Dear SF Kid: If you are going to bestow an ethnic slur on the Italian people (even if you are one of them), the least you could do is spell it correctly - the word is guinea (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Transwiki:Guinea_(ethnic_slur))

[kar120c]

Thats it! Kid Brasi!:pound:

And don't forget Victor Stracci (he got it in the Elevator) and Carmine Cuneo (he got it in the revolving door).

[McCovey]

And don't forget Victor Stracci (he got it in the Elevator) and Carmine Cuneo (he got it in the revolving door).

And don't forget Pauly got in the car ("Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." ). And what was Connie's first husband that was garrotted by Clemenza?

[kar120c]

And don't forget Pauly got in the car ("Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." ). And what was Connie's first husband that was garrotted by Clemenza?

Carlo ("you sit in the front seat") Rizzi.

[#25]

I must be missing something. What does this have to do with Conor Gillaspie?

[SF Kid]

I must be missing something. What does this have to do with Conor Gillaspie?I'm with you. These guys are going stir crazy without baseball! :p