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TkleMstr52
12-07-2008, 10:46 PM
2 in a row, 3 of 4 and a 3-3 record under this guy!! Impressive, I wonder if this is an abarition? This TEAM is playing together. I thought they would be better this year but who could have known it would take this long and all they have been through to start working together. Its nice to see!!:)

McCovey
12-08-2008, 01:07 AM
2 in a row, 3 of 4 and a 3-3 record under this guy!! Impressive, I wonder if this is an abarition? This TEAM is playing together. I thought they would be better this year but who could have known it would take this long and all they have been through to start working together. Its nice to see!!:)
It's quite common for teams to play better when they change coaches. Often when teams change coaches the replacement coach is opposite in personality and this leads to teams playing better. When a team fires a intense type-A coach they get a laid back replacement and vice versa. A replacement laid back coach often tells the players to "have fun" or give the players some breathing room. When a replacement intense type coach comes in he brings order and purpose to a team where no one knows who is in charge. With Mike Nolan there was no direction and Nolan seemed overwhelmed all the time. Singletary brings order and direction. Everyone knows he is in charge. If a player challenges Singletary, Singletary will deal with the player and let him know he (the player) is NOT in charge here. Also, Singletary was a HoF linebacker and played on one of the NFL's greatest teams. That carries a lot of weight and respect in the clubhouse I would imagine.

Now I don't know what kind of coach Singletary is. Does he have a brilliant football mind? To be honest I don't get that vibe from Singletary. But all kinds of talents and personalities have had successful coaching careers. For every Bill Walsh, Paul Brown, Vince Lobardi (the intellectual types), there was Mike Ditka, Dan Reeves, and Tom Landry (former NFL players turned coaches). Right now it seems the 49ers are playing on high emotions. You can't play like that over a full season. "High energy" and "emotions" are poor substitutes for football talent. I hope the 49ers can build on this and have a long term plan to builder a playoff team.

It's amazing that if the 49ers had won that Monday night game on Nov. 10 against the Cardinals, where they outplayed the Cardinals for like 55 minutes, the 49ers would be 6-7 today. That's not a great record but it would be real progress from last season.

RrCoX22
12-09-2008, 01:50 PM
i can see him around next year... the team and management need a coach with this intensity to get the team chemistry back in order. hopefully they will have a good draft and make a run for the playoffs next year! :beerbang:

Bear
12-09-2008, 02:21 PM
At this point I don't think it's if he gets a new contract but when. Both sides what it to happen so it will at some point!:cool:

McCovey
12-09-2008, 02:55 PM
At this point I don't think it's if he gets a new contract but when. Both sides what it to happen so it will at some point!:cool:
I hope the 49ers management truly gets behind Singletary and support him. He looks like he going to be a good head coach for a long time.

Bear
12-09-2008, 03:07 PM
I hope the 49ers management truly gets behind Singletary and support him. He looks like he going to be a good head coach for a long time.

Rod Brooks on KNBR says its a done deal already but there is no hurry to make it public yet. I don't know if we can trust this but that is what he said this afternoon.:cool:

SF Kid
12-09-2008, 04:24 PM
I was a big Singletary fan but would have some reservations based on the couple of stunts he pulled in the first two weeks of bring a HC. Dropping his pants in the locker room at half time was over the top. Sending Davis to the locker room to take a shower was IMO immature.

You only get one shot at doing stuff like this. After that it's very easy to lose the locker room. Mike is old school and while that is great we're talking 2008 now and things change like it or not.

Bottom line is I'm not sure Singletary is the right guy. Maybe he is but it's a big gamble in a sport that's involved with big money and winning is everything.

TkleMstr52
12-09-2008, 07:04 PM
Dude has balls, he is a giant leap ahead of the previous few coaches, I dont care how you get results as long as you do!! I like his style.

McCovey
12-30-2008, 06:11 PM
Singletary signs a four year contract and he fired Mike Martz. That's an interesting move. Apparently, Singletary wants to impliment a run-oriented offense.


Tuesday, December 30, 2008
Singletary wants to go in 'different direction'

Associated Press

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Mike Martz, the headstrong coach who took St. Louis to the 2002 Super Bowl, was fired Tuesday after one season as the San Francisco 49ers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sfo)' offensive coordinator.

San Francisco coach Mike Singletary announced Martz's third firing in less than three calendar years following an afternoon meeting with the veteran offensive mastermind.


This parting had long been expected, and it wasn't nearly as acrimonious as Martz's last two dismissals in St. Louis and Detroit. Singletary and Martz worked together fairly well for nine games after Singletary's midseason promotion, but the two men clearly have different philosophies of offense.

"I wish him nothing but the best," Martz said of Singletary, adding that the Hall of Fame linebacker will be "an outstanding head coach."

"I am not what he is looking for offensively," Martz said. "I understand that. This is just a part of professional sports."

Martz's dismissal means the 49ers are looking for their seventh offensive coordinator in seven years -- but at least Martz left something on which the new coach can build.

San Francisco's offense was the NFL's lowest-ranked in two of the previous three seasons, but Martz raised the group to competence -- although Singletary's decision to promote quarterback Shaun Hill (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4260) past J.T. O'Sullivan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3745) was a major factor as well.

Singletary, who famously played for the Chicago Bears (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi) under Mike Ditka, wants the 49ers to run more of a ground-based, smash-mouth offense instead of Martz's sophisticated passing schemes. San Francisco general manager Scot McCloughan shares Singletary's beliefs, and Martz apparently never developed a relationship with McCloughan during his year in town.


"After an evaluation period, I felt it was best to go in a different direction," Singletary said. "This was not an easy decision because I appreciate Mike Martz, and I enjoyed working with him. He is a true professional, and I wish him the best in the future. I do recognize the need for a long-term solution on the offensive side of the ball."

The 49ers scored 339 points this season after managing just 219 last year, also racking up nearly 74 more offensive yards per game. San Francisco's 35 turnovers were nearly the same number as last season, and Martz's quarterbacks were sacked 55 times, a frequent flaw in his offenses.

Martz chose O'Sullivan, a veteran backup on his eighth NFL team, as his starting quarterback under head coach Mike Nolan at the start of the season. Singletary benched the turnover-prone O'Sullivan midway through his first game as head coach, and Hill led the 49ers to five wins in their final seven games for a 7-9 finish -- matching their best record since they last made the playoffs after the 2002 season.

Although Martz has a reputation as a pass-happy play-caller, he also got a third consecutive 1,000-yard rushing season out of running back Frank Gore (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8479), who praised Martz on Sunday. Isaac Bruce (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=658), the longtime Rams receiver who signed with the 49ers in part because of his old coach's presence, had 835 yards receiving, the most by any 49ers receiver since Terrell Owens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1056) in 2003.

The 57-year-old Martz coached the Rams from 2000-2005, taking a medical leave after five games in his final season because of heart problems.

He led the Rams to the 2002 Super Bowl after being the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis team that won the 2000 title with the "Greatest Show on Turf."

It featured Kurt Warner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1682) at quarterback, Marshall Faulk (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=548) at running back, and Bruce and Torry Holt (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1757) in a high-scoring offense that averaged almost 33 points a game in 1999 and 31 points two years later.

Martz was the offensive coordinator of the Lions in 2006-2007, but was fired as the scapegoat for Detroit's late-season collapse last year.

SF Kid
12-30-2008, 06:46 PM
Didn't take Big Mike long to show Martz the door.

What a bunch of BS about him having "respect" for Martz. My guess is they hated each other. :cool:

Bear
12-30-2008, 06:56 PM
Didn't take Big Mike long to show Martz the door.

What a bunch of BS about him having "respect" for Martz. My guess is they hated each other. :cool:

No, do you think! They both wanted Nolan's job.:eek:

TkleMstr52
12-31-2008, 12:15 PM
No doubt, they wanted completely different styles. Power game vs Showtime, they didnt and dont have players for the latter!!

SF Kid
12-31-2008, 12:43 PM
Wonder where Martz lands next?

He's a talented coach but he's kind of an asshole.

McCovey
12-31-2008, 12:52 PM
Wonder where Martz lands next?
Oakland, baby! :pound:



He's a talented coach but he's kind of an asshole.

Is Martz the Billy Martin of the NFL? :shrug:

McCovey
12-31-2008, 12:53 PM
No doubt, they wanted completely different styles. Power game vs Showtime, they didnt and dont have players for the latter!!
Is Frank Gore is "power" running back? At 5'9" and 217 lbs Gore is a bit light for a power running game.

TkleMstr52
12-31-2008, 01:05 PM
Have you ever watched him play, he is a bowling ball at his hieght!! Hell yes he is a power runner, he breaks as many if not more tackles than any other back in the league.

TkleMstr52
12-31-2008, 01:08 PM
At least when he is healthy to correct myself