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kar120c
11-01-2008, 02:25 PM
I saw this story linked on another site (www.mccoveychronicles.com). I do not see it on this site, so I though I would add it.

It seems that while we knew of two pitchers in the Giants Organization that won MiLBY Pitcher of the Year awards - Madison Bumgarner (SAL) and Tim Alderson (CAL), there is a third. His name is Kyle Nicholson. He received the MiLBY for Best Short-Season Starter after going 6-1 with a 1.15 ERA in 11 appearances for the Rookie-level Giants of the Arizona League (AZL).

Seems he was a 7th round 2007 draft choice of the Giants, from Texas A&M.

I am familiar with many of the Giants prospects, but this is the first I have heard of Kyle Nicholson. I read the MLB article, and offer three observations on it, for whatever they are worth…

1) FTA “In 62 1/3 innings over the summer, Nicholson struck out 54 while walking only three. " Good to see a young pitcher that knows how to pitch. I have always remembered something the great Satchel Paige once said, when he was asked for the secret to his success: "Home plate don’t move, man. Throw strikes”.

2) It seems that he needed Tommy John surgery shortly after turning pro (I estimate somewhere early/mid 2007. There was another fellow like that who the Giants took a chance on. He was the second banana to the great arm that everyone noticed on the great LSU team in 2003. His name was Brian Wilson. Wilson threw hard, but was a bit wild. The Giants drafted him anyway (in the 24th round). And, like Nicholson, Wilson had TJ surgery before turning pro as well. It did take WIlson some time to recover, and then develop, but after what he did in 2008, I imagine the Giants are happy that they were more patient with him than they were with Joe Nathan. By the way, the top banana on that 2003 LSU team – Billy Sadler – was was also drafted by the Giants (6th Round).

3) FTA “The 23-year-old right-hander cemented the honor by not allowing an earned run over his last four starts and yielding only one run over his final seven outings. During that span, he went 6-0 with an 0.19 ERA, yielding 19 hits while striking out 45.” I do not know about the caliber of hitters in the AZL, and I realize he is a 23 year old college player in a league that may have quite a few younger players, but those are dominant numbers. If he does this while still recovering form TJ surgery, and his arm strength improves to the point where he again can throw in the low to mid 90’s (as he was rumored to be able to do in college), the Giants may really have something here.

The complete articles is here: http://giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081028&content_id=3651564&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Bear
11-01-2008, 05:39 PM
I agree with all you have said, and I believe the Giants are very well stocked with many talented young arms for the future. This is why I would pass on going after a free agent pitcher or a trade for another arm and work on finding two to three position players who can hit. I am not saying we say no to a great pitcher but this must not be are main focus. It takes a total team to be a winner and pitching is already are strong point. Now lets get some hitting to support our pitching. ;)

kar120c
11-02-2008, 06:17 AM
You make a good point here - the Giants have laid the foundation for a good staff. IMHO, they are ahead of schedule with the rotation (Linc, Cain, Zito, Sanchez, and a number of #5 candidates (Lowry, Correia, and a number guys in the minors). They are on schedule with the bullpen. A good closer (Wilson), a good set up man (Romo) promising remainder (Hinshaw, Valdez, Sadler, and and a number of guys in the minors).

I echo your statement - the Giants need bats. Among the young talent, I believe Velez will be the cipher here. Lewis will be OK: Solid hitter, good fielder. Sandoval also: Plus hitter, good fielder (either at C or 1B). Burriss also. OK hitter, good fielder. Nate? Too soon to tell. He has nothing left to prove in AAA, and he looked good in the last 6 weeks of the season, but such was also said of Todd Linden. This is the year when he must take someone's job away from them, or move on.

Velez? Not sure what to make of him. He is loaded with talent. Can run like the wind. Shows signs of being a gap hitter. With a bit of coaching, he could steal 50. I was sure that, after his horrible May (following a great spring), he would get sent down (he was). And given the Giants IF youth movement (Burriss, Ochoa, Denker, etc.), I was not sure he would be called up again. But he regrouped, and picked it up in AAA (a good sign) for an August callup. And the rest of the season, he was one of the three best hitters in SF (with Sandoval and Burriss). I believe he hit .370 in Aug/Sep, raising his season avg from .220 to .262. He also had two game winning hits (back to back games). He could be another 2B that Toronto regrets giving up on - Jeff Kent also did well, I hear. It took Kent some time and three organizations (Mets, Indians, Giants) to find his way.

I am not saying Velez will be good. He is still not a polished defender (oddly enough, Kent never was either), and needs work on his pitch selection. But if he surprises everyone in 2009, and the others (i.e. Lewis, Sandoval, Burriss, etc.) play to expectations, I believe the Giants will see a marked improvement in their record.