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Bear
06-29-2008, 09:00 PM
Monday, June 30 AT&T Park | 7:15 PM PT

Ted Lilly, LHP (8-5, 4.74) Cubs (49-32) @ Barry Zito, LHP (3-11, 5.91)
Giants (36-46)

Scouting Report:

Cubs: Lilly is coming off a win over the Orioles in which he gave up four runs on five hits and two walks over seven innings. All the runs came on a pair of two-run homers by Jay Payton. Lilly is still struggling to keep the ball in the park -- and when the wind is blowing out at Wrigley, it doesn't help. AT&T Park should be a better fit. Lilly is 2-1 with a 6.08 ERA lifetime against the Giants.

Giants: After posting a 1-3 record in his first four June starts, Zito flashed his 2002 AL Cy Young form on Wednesday at Cleveland, surrendering one run and four hits in a season-high 6 2/3 innings as the Giants prevailed, 4-1. Zito's employing a slightly lower arm slot and using a two-seam fastball to his advantage. Zito was 1-0 with a 1.80 ERA in two starts against Chicago last year. But he has struggled at AT&T Park, where he's 0-7 with a 7.34 ERA.

Tuesday, July 1 AT&T Park | 7:15 PM PT

Jason Marquis, RHP (6-4, 4.96) Cubs (49-32) @ Matt Cain, RHP (4-6, 4.44) Giants (36-46)

Scouting Report:

Cubs: The Orioles made sure Marquis wouldn't go 5-0 for June his last time out, shelling him for seven runs in four innings. He had been stellar previously, outdueling Brad Penny, Roy Halladay and Jose Contreras in consecutive outings. The start was Marquis' shortest of the season and his first loss since May 13. Marquis is 3-0 with a 2.56 lifetime against the Giants.

Giants: Cain struggled in his last outing, allowing four runs and eight hits in five innings at Cleveland. That interrupted a three-game stretch in which he was 2-1 with a 2.95 ERA, 25 strikeouts and only three walks in 21 1/3 innings. Cain's appearances against the Cubs conjure an indelible memory: On Sept. 9, 2005, he became the youngest Giant in the franchise's San Francisco history to throw a complete game when he beat Chicago with a two-hitter. Cain finished 1-1 with a 5.73 ERA in two starts against the Cubs last year.

Wednesday, July 2 AT&T Park | 7:15 PM PT

Ryan Dempster, RHP (9-3, 3.26) Cubs (49-32) @ Kevin Correia, RHP (1-5, 4.79) Giants (36-46)

Scouting Report:

Cubs: Dempster is still looking for that first road win. He's 9-0 at Wrigley, and 0-3 in seven starts on the road. His last outing against the White Sox was the first time he'd been roughed up. The right-hander gave up eight runs on seven hits and three walks in 2 1/3 innings, his shortest outing of the season. The problem was that he couldn't get away with any mistakes.

Giants: A solid five innings of work weren't enough to net Correia a victory in last appearance. Against the cross-bay rival Athletics, Correia allowed just one run and four hits, but his pitch count (102) was high and he was pulled before the sixth in a tie game. After missing more than six weeks with a strained muscle in his left side, Correia has been healthy for his last three turns in the rotation. He has improved in each of those appearances, allowing five, three and one run, respectively.

Thursday, July 3 AT&T Park | 4:05 PM PT

Sean Gallagher, RHP (3-3, 4.36) Cubs (49-32) @ Tim Lincecum, RHP (9-1, 2.38) (36-46)

Scouting Report:

Cubs: Gallagher did not get a decision in his last outing against the White Sox, but learned some valuable lessons. The right-hander gave up five runs on eight hits and three walks over six innings, and matched a season high with eight strikeouts. He also threw a season-high 121 pitches. He got an earful from Lou Piniella in the second inning, and settled down. He escaped a tough jam in the fifth when the Sox had two on and one out, and struck out the next two batters. He's still going through growing pains.




I would be happy with a split but I would not be upset if they found a way for a series win.:beerbang:

Swede
06-30-2008, 12:25 AM
If the Giants continue to go with the pitches rather than pull the ball, they should do ok, pending Zito.

Bear
06-30-2008, 08:34 AM
We need to see several more outings like the last one for Zito before I will be comfortable with him going out to the mound.:rolleyes:

McCovey
06-30-2008, 08:58 AM
We'll see how big a gap there is between the Giants and the elite NL teams. At least the Giants won't have to face Carlos Zambrano. He usually does against the Giants.

Bear
06-30-2008, 09:53 PM
Zito is gone after 5 inn against the Cubs trailing 5-0. He did not pitch very well and he got no "D" behind him. Result is the giants trail 5-0. Also you might be interested in the fact that Zito threw 113 pitches in his 5 inn of work.:nono:

McCovey
06-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Zito sucks. :mad:

Bear
06-30-2008, 11:22 PM
Giants lose 9-2. Zito is now 3-12 with a 5.99 ERA. Remember Zito was the Giants #1 at the beginning of 2008.:eek::nono:

McCovey
07-01-2008, 02:06 AM
Can the Giants sign 73 year old Juan Maruchal? I'm sure he can pitch better than Zito can right now. :rolleyes:

McCovey
07-01-2008, 02:10 AM
Speaking of the Cubs, this the best Cubs team I seen since, like, ever.

SF Kid
07-01-2008, 08:10 AM
I'm hoping the Cubs get into the WS.

Actually I'm sick of hearing how inept they've been for the last 80 or so years -- The Giants are doing their best to emulate the hapless Cubs.

Zito ---> :rotf:

Swede
07-01-2008, 09:33 AM
What goes on in the head of someone, who makes too many millions, who sucks so bad. I hope he feels like donating some of his hard earned salary to the fire victims in Northern California. Some of them do not have a home left, or a TV to watch him have control problems.

Its got to be tough on a family....I could hear his kids say, " Dad, you sucked again tonight, the kids at school are talking about how bad you are."

Bear
07-01-2008, 11:33 AM
What goes on in the head of someone, who makes too many millions, who sucks so bad. I hope he feels like donating some of his hard earned salary to the fire victims in Northern California. Some of them do not have a home left, or a TV to watch him have control problems.

Its got to be tough on a family....I could hear his kids say, " Dad, you sucked again tonight, the kids at school are talking about how bad you are."



I believe he is a good guy who does feel bad about how he is pitching. I know he gives back to the community and does a lot of volunteer work.

As far as his family goes I do not believe he has any kids or is married. So that part of the problem does not exist.:twocents:

Bear
07-01-2008, 10:50 PM
Giants win 2-1. Cain Gets the win with 10 K's and Wilson gets the save. This was one of the better games for the Giants this season.:beerbang:

McCovey
07-01-2008, 10:52 PM
Matt Cain had and excellent game! He pitched 8 innings, 0 ER, 2 H, 10 K, 3 BB. Most excellent!

Bear
07-01-2008, 11:02 PM
Matt Cain had and excellent game! He pitched 8 innings, 0 ER, 2 H, 10 K, 3 BB. Most excellent!


I think it was his best game of the 2008 season! :awesomework.gif :twocents: :clap:

McCovey
07-01-2008, 11:37 PM
I think it was his best game of the 2008 season! :awesomework.gif :twocents: :clap:
You think? :D Hopefully, this is a start of a great run by Cain. He's got the tools to be one of the best pitchers in the NL.

SF Kid
07-02-2008, 07:18 AM
I think^ I doubt it.

We'll see if Cain can back up this performance with a similar one. I sure hope so. The guy is my favorite Giant and he's bee very disappointing since the middle of last season. :mad:

Bear
07-03-2008, 12:30 AM
Giants lose 6-5. They need Big Tim to get them a win, and a series split with the Cubs!:beerbang:

SF Kid
07-03-2008, 07:22 AM
Big Tim? The kid is a scrawny little punk. What is he a buck sixty soaking wet. Stop calling him Big Tim. Dummy. :BS:

I'm getting tired of the Linecum ballwashing.

Bear
07-03-2008, 08:02 PM
Big Tim wins again as he leads the Giants to a 8-3 victory over the Cubs to move his incredible record to 10-1. He also had 8 K's in 6 inn. There is not a pitcher close to this guy on the Giants staff except for Jonathan Sanchez. :toast:

SF Kid
07-03-2008, 08:31 PM
The Big Dummy gets 8 runs to support his cause. Go figure.

I thought you left town Bear. If you didn't please do. :rotf:

McCovey
07-04-2008, 12:59 AM
He, all that matters is that the Giants won and Lincecum is now 10-1. He should be the National League All-Stars starting pitcher. :beerbang:

Bear
07-04-2008, 08:45 AM
Lincecum is a God, and Cain is a false prophet!:pound::rotf::pound::rotf: