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Bear
06-26-2008, 05:25 PM
June 26, 2008

Richard Justice
Sporting News


HOUSTON -- It was both frightening and surreal to those who saw it. Houston Astros pitcher Shawn Chacon rose from his chair, wrapped his hands around general manager Ed Wade's throat and threw him to the floor.

After all the tantrums and all the dumb stuff and all the people who have forgiven Chacon through the years, he finally crossed the line Wednesday. He might long regret the day he likely ended his own big league career.

Chacon did it himself. He'll look for scapegoats. He'll blame others. He'll look everywhere except the mirror. That's what people like Chacon always do.

In the end, though, everything that has happened to Shawn Chacon has been because of Shawn Chacon. This incident can't be forgiven or forgotten. Not by the Astros. Not by any other club.

Wade had approached Chacon and requested a meeting after the pitcher lashed out at Astros manager Cecil Cooper for demoting him to the bullpen.

Chacon refused. He challenged Wade to say what he had to say. Wade did. Loudly.

This wasn't Wade's finest hour, either. To ask for a meeting is one thing. To resort to yelling and cursing reflects a lack of maturity on Wade's part as well. Some who have known Wade through the years have thought he had a large streak of insecurity and a little man's complex.

Maybe this moment is a reflection of how far a once successful franchise has fallen.

Once upon a time, the Astros were Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio. They played the game a certain way. They represented professionalism and winning. Now with a farm system in disarray and a major league roster that's a patchwork of pieces from other organizations, the Astros are an absolute mess.

The Astros were perfectly justified in suspending Chacon, and then later releasing him, but owner Drayton McLane would be equally justified in asking some hard questions about Wade's behavior. Wade's yelling doesn't give Chacon an excuse to resort to violence, but it's no way a general manager should behave.

If Chacon had only argued or yelled or used words things would be different.

Regardless, the Astros signed Chacon knowing there was the potential for trouble. He'd worn out his welcome at a few stops along the way but apparently never had done anything like this. He's one of those guys with all kinds of talent, but a guy who always seems to disappoint.

He got off to a nice start for the Astros but had a 6.66 ERA in his past 10 starts and a 9.35 ERA in his past four. He simply didn't deserve to keep his spot in the rotation.

Wade took a $2 million gamble on Chacon because he was desperate. He hoped Chacon would be productive on the field and behave off the field. He was productive for a while, but things began to come apart when he threw a tantrum on the mound in Milwaukee a couple of weeks ago.

Chacon hadn't pitched well, and when he was sent to the bullpen he made every effort to get himself suspended. Wade obliged him Wednesday.

If you're McLane, you're also perfectly within your rights to ask, "Say, Ed, what made you think we were going to get through an entire season without a problem from Shawn?"

After all, Wade passed on Livan Hernandez, Kyle Lohse and one or two other pitchers. He went for the guy with the baggage. I'm hoping it wasn't just about money. Minnesota gave Hernandez $5 million. St. Louis gave Lohse $4.25 million.

Maybe Wade was gambling Chacon would do whatever he could to do everything right and maybe land a big money deal after the season. Now, it seems unlikely he'll ever pitch again in the big leagues.

What a strange career Chacon has had. He made the National League All-Star team in 2003 and was huge in helping the New York Yankees get to the playoffs in 2005.

He also has frustrated teammates and managers with his meltdowns, attitude and behavior. He twice tested positive for marijuana in the minor leagues and almost was released by the Rockies before he got close to the big leagues.

Once he arrived in 2001, he seemed on the fast track to stardom. By August 2002, Colorado manager Clint Hurdle banished him to the minor leagues and doubted he'd ever be back. Yet Chacon showed up for spring training the following year and won Hurdle back with his attitude and performance.

Chacon impressed the Yankees for a while, too, and the Pirates last year with his setup work in the bullpen. The Astros left spring training this spring saying great things about him.

Then he fell apart on the mound. And now this.



Who does this guy think he is? The second coming of Latrell Sprewell! :eek:

Swede
06-27-2008, 09:01 AM
And the players union will try and get the Astros to pay his salary. The guy got fired. No work, no pay. As a teacher, I have seen how the unions protect "bad" employees. Sometimes it is justified, but when violence comes into play, I feel you are done, with no compensation.

SF Kid
06-27-2008, 05:53 PM
Isn't that the silliest thing you ever heard? The players union putting up a stink instead of telling the clown he's a dumb shit? :wtf1:

Bear
06-27-2008, 06:35 PM
Isn't that the silliest thing you ever heard? The players union putting up a stink instead of telling the clown he's a dumb shit? :wtf1:

Yes, and they are going to bring action to try and get him his money. Like who would keep their job if they strangled their boss? This guy is up for the 2008 Dumb Ass award.:eek:

SF Kid
06-27-2008, 08:09 PM
Yes, and they are going to bring action to try and get him his money. Like who would keep their job if they strangled their boss? This guy is up for the 2008 Dumb Ass award.:eek::goodpost:

It's amazing what these unions try and do. I guess they have to try and justify their existence some how but this isn't the right way.

Bear
06-30-2008, 04:07 PM
Associated Press
June 30, 2008

Shawn Chacon cleared waivers and was released Monday by the Houston Astros on Monday, five days after a physical altercation with general manager Ed Wade in the clubhouse.

Michael Weiner, the general counsel of the players' association, said the union planned to file a grievance Tuesday. The union will claim the Astros improperly terminated the deal and that Chacon is owed the remaining $983,607 of his $2 million salary this year.

The 30-year-old pitcher was suspended after shoving Wade to the floor before the Astros played Texas last Wednesday. Wade said he had asked Chacon to come into manager Cecil Cooper's office for a meeting. Chacon refused, and the confrontation ensued.

Chacon was put on waivers Thursday. The Astros said last week that if another team did not claim Chacon by Monday, the team would release the pitcher and terminate his contract for cause.

The Astros said Chacon violated a provision in the uniform player contract that states the player may be terminated if he shall "fail, refuse, or neglect to conform his personal conduct to the standards of good citizenship and good sportsmanship or to keep himself in first-class physical condition or to obey to the club's training rules."

Chacon's agent, Dan Horwits, did not immediately return a phone message left by The Associated Press.

Chacon was 2-3 with a 5.04 ERA in 15 starts this season. He set a major league record for a starting pitcher with nine straight no-decisions to open the season.
:lame::shakehead:


If the union files this grievance it is the union who is the big loser. This is one case where they should stay out of it for the good of the game.:nono:

McCovey
06-30-2008, 04:50 PM
It is lame. Chacon is lucky Wade hasn't filed assault charges. If any of us attacked our bosses we'd be arrested. Also, if your boss is the boss. If he asks you to come into the office you supposed to do. Chacon is dumbass.