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Bear
06-12-2008, 06:23 PM
Friday, June 13 AT&T Park | 7:15 PM PT

Greg Smith, LHP (3-5, 3.74) Athletics (35-30) @ Barry Zito, LHP (2-9, 5.83) Giants (30-37)

Scouting Report:

A's: Smith threw what he called an inconsistent game in his last start against the Angels, allowing five runs (four earned) on seven hits and three walks with three strikeouts in 6 1/3 innings. Coming off his worst start of the season, a seven-run no-decision against Texas, his performance against the Angels represented just the third time in his career he allowed at least four earned runs. This will be Smith's first start against the Giants.

Giants: Zito picked up his second win of the season against the Nationals, allowing three runs spread out over five innings of work, and leaving the bases loaded in the fifth to protect his win. He showed flashes of the strong command the Giants would like to see regularly, but had to labor to get out of jams in some innings. He said afterward that he was struggling to cope with the intense Washington heat during the afternoon game. His 83-pitch outing is something the team would like to see him build on against Oakland.

Saturday, June 14 AT&T Park | 6:05 PM PT

Rich Harden, RHP (3-0, 2.85) Athletics (35-30) @ Matt Cain, RHP (3-4, 4.43) Giants (30-37)

Scouting Report:

A's: Harden got his third consecutive no-decision in his last start against the Angels, pitching six effective innings while surrendering three runs on six hits and three walks with a season-high-tying nine strikeouts. The highlight of his 99-pitch outing were the first nine pitches he threw in the game that struck out the side.

Giants: After struggling to find his command, Cain spent the week consulting with the team's other pitchers and coaches. His practice paid off on Monday as he displayed strong command in a 3-2 victory against Washington. He walked one and struck out six while lasting 6 1/3 innings. After the game, he said he felt confident during the outing, and will look to keep his aggressive mentality against Oakland.

Sunday, June 15 AT&T Park | 1:05 PM PT

Dana Eveland, LHP (4-5, 3.76) Athletics (35-30) @ Kevin Correia, RHP (1-3, 4.50) Giants (30-37)

Scouting Report:

A's: Entering his last start, against the Yankees, Eveland had not been the same pitcher since throwing a one-run complete game on May 21. He had lasted just 4 1/3 innings in two consecutive starts, giving up a combined 10 runs. Against New York he fared better, giving up two runs on just four hits while walking six and striking out three, but it wasn't enough for a win. It marked the seventh time in 13 starts he allowed two runs or fewer. This will be Eveland's first career start versus the Giants. In 2007, he pitched a perfect 1/3 of an inning in relief against them as a Diamondback.

Giants: This will be Correia's first start since April 26, when he was removed after facing three Cincinnati hitters with a strained muscle in his left side. Correia looked sharp in his Minor League injury rehabilitation outings -- particularly last Monday, when he allowed one run and five hits in seven innings against Triple-A Colorado Springs. Except for that truncated effort against the Reds, Correia lasted at least six innings in each of his four starts.



I like the Giants to take two out of three and maybe if they are lucky three out of three.

GO GIANTS, BEAT THE A'S

SF Kid
06-12-2008, 07:12 PM
That is lame.

I want the one with all the pictures or the graphics or nothing at all. :mad:

:lame:

Bear
06-12-2008, 11:29 PM
That is lame.

I want the one with all the pictures or the graphics or nothing at all. :mad:

:lame:


Then do it yourself!:thumbdown:

McCovey
06-13-2008, 12:56 AM
Hey, I'm hoping Correia can get it going again. :awesomework.gif

SF Kid
06-13-2008, 06:41 AM
Then do it yourself!:thumbdown: You're the one who had the bright idea that lasted one day. You have a 'tude'.

Bear
06-13-2008, 07:47 AM
You're the one who had the bright idea that lasted one day. You have a 'tude'.

You have too much time on your hands mister.:nono:

Bear
06-13-2008, 11:34 PM
Giants lose to the A's 5-1. Zito (Zero) is now 2-10 with an ERA of 5.88. How much longer do they run his ass out there? :confused:

McCovey
06-14-2008, 12:51 AM
They really need to stick Zito in long relief so minimize the damage he causes. :rolleyes:

SF Kid
06-14-2008, 07:14 AM
Pathetic.

Giants management has to admit at some point they screwed up. Eating that contract is going to be hard (and I don't believe they will for another year) but sooner the better ..It's not doing the team any good running him out there to get shelled. We're back to the same old thing. The Giants management can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

Bear
06-14-2008, 09:38 AM
I hope you all remember it was the Bear who wanted to dump Zero at 0-5 when he is at 4-20. At that point people will be saying we need to dump him no matter what the cost.:eek:



DUMP ZITO!!!

SF Kid
06-14-2008, 12:34 PM
The Giants organization doesn't want to eat that salary no matter the record. Not my money so I don't care but if it was my money I'm not just cutting this clown because the Bear thinks it's a good idea.

McCovey
06-14-2008, 12:44 PM
The way I see it is this way. In what industry would a business just throw away roughly $100 million? No company would ever so that. :o

SF Kid
06-14-2008, 01:42 PM
The way I see it is this way. In what industry would a business just throw away roughly $100 million? No company would ever so that. :oRep. :p

Bear
06-14-2008, 01:45 PM
The way I see it is this way. In what industry would a business just throw away roughly $100 million? No company would ever so that. :o

Rep. :p

The Giants organization doesn't want to eat that salary no matter the record. Not my money so I don't care but if it was my money I'm not just cutting this clown because the Bear thinks it's a good idea.

You guys are nuts. You just want to lose every fifth day. Crazy!:eek:

SF Kid
06-14-2008, 02:40 PM
No it's not that we're nuts or want to lose. It's that the Giants are not going to throw $100 Million in the street. Common sense.

Even though they made a mistake they just aren't going to cut Zito. He's untradable. They're screwed and their fans are screwed too.

If it was your money Bear you wouldn't even consider it either. Common sense.

Bear
06-14-2008, 11:37 PM
No it's not that we're nuts or want to lose. It's that the Giants are not going to throw $100 Million in the street. Common sense.

Even though they made a mistake they just aren't going to cut Zito. He's untradable. They're screwed and their fans are screwed too.

If it was your money Bear you wouldn't even consider it either. Common sense.

Now that you know is bullshit. I would cut anyone if it made the team better and you know it.
:eek:

McCovey
06-15-2008, 01:51 AM
No it's not that we're nuts or want to lose. It's that the Giants are not going to throw $100 Million in the street. Common sense.

Even though they made a mistake they just aren't going to cut Zito. He's untradable. They're screwed and their fans are screwed too.

If it was your money Bear you wouldn't even consider it either. Common sense.
The Giants need to sit down and really find out what is wrong with Zito and do everything they can to fix the problem. They need to bring in pitching motion experts and really analyze Zito's pitching motion. Something is seriously wrong with Zito. The biggest red flag is his really low strikeout rate. In his last three starts he has seven strikeouts combined.

Bear
06-15-2008, 10:36 AM
The Giants need to sit down and really find out what is wrong with Zito and do everything they can to fix the problem. They need to bring in pitching motion experts and really analyze Zito's pitching motion. Something is seriously wrong with Zito. The biggest red flag is his really low strikeout rate. In his last three starts he has seven strikeouts combined.


Not everything can be fixed. Even the dumb ass Giants would have tried everything at this point, and it is still broken.:nono:

McCovey
06-15-2008, 11:07 AM
Not everything can be fixed. Even the dumb ass Giants would have tried everything at this point, and it is still broken.:nono:
Have the Giants really tried everything, though? :shrug: They really need to thoroughly exam Zito's arm medically to see if there isn't any hidden damage. It just doesn't make sense for a 30 year old pitch to pitch this poorly given his past success.

There is a a lot of new medical and engineering research being done on pitching motion. It's real cutting edge stuff that uses video and computer models to break down a pitcher's motion. The still have roughly $100 million invest in Zito. They need to look at everything to try to recoup back some of their investment. By this I mean getting Zito to pitch better. The Giants can;t just take the attitude, "Zito sucks and there is nothing we can do about it". :rolleyes:

SF Kid
06-16-2008, 08:41 AM
That was nice. Giants get swept by the A's; fall in the standings and are only 1-1/2 games ahead of the last place Rockies. About what we expected it's just taken longer than we thought.